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King's Spectre · Oct 03, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

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Originally Posted by elleray

To be honest, the drunkard titles shock me. When i see someone with it, and know that theyve sat there for hours, refilling on ale every minute, is amazing. However, i guess you could just make a macro to keep clicking of the beer, but thats a different story.

Ha! That'd be great! Banned for botting the drunkard title FTW!

KamikazeChicken · Oct 03, 2006, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by QoH

Sounds good, but is it possible to make these kind of titles?

No.

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Tommy · Oct 03, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Kind of a big deal title kinda impress me

Griff Mon · Oct 03, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by elleray

To be honest, the drunkard titles shock me. When i see someone with it, and know that theyve sat there for hours, refilling on ale every minute, is amazing. However, i guess you could just make a macro to keep clicking of the beer, but thats a different story.

I have actually played while drunk, it is possible, and I do it to add title time to my drunk title. I just do it when solo farming as it would not be right to go on a mission with other players in that state, but it takes away the boredom of standing around clicking on an ale every minute.

You can also pull this off for less gold than you might think by buying credits from other players and swapping them for ale.

I use time slots like this to add to my drunk title, not as fast as standing around for hours clicking on an ale every minute, but certainly less tedious, and in a weird way kind of fun.

Bolygo · Oct 03, 2006, 02:35 PM // 14:35

I really respect the people who have Kind of a Big Deal title.
You might say grinded it all, but still, he spent a lot of time/money to get his title, and in todays GW world where hhalf of the people dont even know how to play the game this is a nice accomplishment imo.

Tainek · Oct 03, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by Paperfly

I'm actually less impressed by some titles at a high rank than I would be at their baseline stat.

For instance, Gladiator (1) shows some tenacity and that you can cope under pressure. Cool! But Gladiator (3) hints very strongly that you've been "farming" RA (which usually consists of quitting every team you join right at the start of the round unless you get a class mix you like), which suggests you might be a jerk.

Survivor (1) is all very well... But Survivor (3)? Odds are that came from some troll farming.

The single biggest alarm bell, though, comes from the Protector of [the continent you're currently playing] in mission areas. You know for a fact that this guy's already finished the mission, so why is he there? There's four possible reasons, only one of which involves him playing properly with your group if he joins: helping a guildmate (good - and you can easily check this by looking at guild tags), mapping (bad), chest runs (plusbad), and skill capping (doubleplusbad).

All these make giant leaps of assumtion and stereo typing, for example

Gladiator 3? Prehaps they just do a LOT of RA/TA , i have a freind with (Last time i checked, about 3/4 months ago) 500K Bath Faction, All from TA, he has done about 3 hours of TA/RA a day since the game came out

For Survivor 3? thats about 600+ Runs without a death, even with the safest build thats a lot, its easyer to get it skill capping, and getting powerleveled is very dangerous as well

Protector title? Has it hit you that prehaps people ENJOY doing missions? Ya Rly, it does happen

dwc89 · Oct 03, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Something a guildie and I were talking about the other day - titles have kept people playing GW, some anyway.

When they first came out I looked to see how many bonues I had in Prophecies and how much map, figured why not.

Since I wanted my chars through factions I got that map first and then moved on to getting protect title in proph as well as TGMC.

When playing in prophecies I remembered what was fun about the game - really not that fond of factions - have avoided getting protect title due to my dislike.

ign - Huntress Velasca

Orange Milk · Oct 03, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

I'm 6 skills from the Top Lvl of the Skill Hunter title, Feast of Coruption took me almost 2 hours to cap yesterday, I could not find that freakin wurm. It's really the only title I care about. I play with a Range in PvE about 100% of the time so when I started PvPing I was limited. So to play other builds I started capping, then I use faction to unlock simple skills for builds, no I can roll pretty much anything for PvP

I have both Protector Titles, sure lots of folks have em so some people are not impressed, but to me this shows that not only have you completed the game but you took the time to do it right.

Glad title imppresses me due to the fact that I can not count the number of times I have won 7 or 8 or 9 in a row in RA/TA then lost.

Hero I could careless about, I like HA but people simply use this title as a way to snub their noses at folks, bah, with 8 man you can get by with one or two bad people farming away at fame, in TA or Ra all 4 need to be on the same page.

Priest Of Sin · Oct 03, 2006, 03:40 PM // 15:40

Titles in general don't impress me, neither does Rank. Why? Because everything in PvP these days is cookie-cutter and boring.

Friend of the Kurzicks/Luxons? You're probably one of those stupid touchers.

Protector Of Tyria/Cantha? You can get that title with guildies.

Hero titles? You either IWAY or spike, pure and simple.

Survivor? Someone held your hand throughout the entire game.

Unlucky/lucky? You went afk during the festival.

GvG titles? Well, those kinda impress me, as I love high-level GvGs.

Naturally, there are exceptions to these rules, but in general...

lennymon · Oct 03, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Im only impressed by the titles that *I earn*... nobody else should be impressed by my titles unless they have the same one and understand, and vide versa. All titles involve grind, or fun its just a matter of perspective. If you enjoy playing ra/ta every day, then you'll do it, and probably earn some gladiator titles... Why one earth would someone play ra/ta if they didn't actually enjoy it just for a title? The same applies for any other title. There is some exception to the pve titles as after a year plus of pve one *could* become a little burned out

so titles give you some sort of a goal, if you really want one.

crimsonfilms · Oct 03, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Champion title.

That is it. Others are just for fun and/or farmable.

Champion title can be farmed by certain players and guilds - like Evil, iQ, Te, WM, Val, EW, etc.
Meaning actual good players in a good guild. Being a good player is not enough nor just being in a good guild. You have to have a good GvG core team and you have to be in the team. You can't E-Bay it either (unless you buy an actual account). And the biggest difference compared to other PvP titles is that you have to maintain a certain level of greatness. Meaning - you can't be beating up on noob teams or keep losing to great ones. Unlike HA fame or Allianc faction - there is a penalty for losing in GvG.

99% of the GvG community can't farm it (or at least it is much more difficult).

B Ephekt · Oct 03, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by crimsonfilms

Champion title.

That is it. Others are just for fun and/or farmable.

Champion title can be farmed by certain players and guilds - like Evil, iQ, Te, WM, Val, EW, etc.
Meaning actual good players in a good guild. Being a good player is not enough nor just being in a good guild. You have to have a good GvG core team and you have to be in the team. You can't E-Bay it either (unless you buy an actual account). And the biggest difference compared to other PvP titles is that you have to maintain a certain level of greatness. Meaning - you can't be beating up on noob teams or keep losing to great ones. Unlike HA fame or Allianc faction - there is a penalty for losing in GvG.

99% of the GvG community can't farm it (or at least it is much more difficult).

LOL? Any half-way decent guild or group of friends can thumpway up until top 250-ish to get the required 1200 rating pretty easily. I know plenty of people who have done PUG GvG with the specific goal of getting a Champ title, and some of them already have r2 Champ. I have 4 champ points myself and I'm in an HA guild... So, yeah, don't fool yourself - this title is very farmable, and a lot of non-top-20 people ARE farming it.

ChaoticCoyote · Oct 03, 2006, 04:27 PM // 16:27

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Originally Posted by Paperfly

The single biggest alarm bell, though, comes from the Protector of [the continent you're currently playing] in mission areas. You know for a fact that this guy's already finished the mission, so why is he there? There's four possible reasons, only one of which involves him playing properly with your group if he joins: helping a guildmate (good - and you can easily check this by looking at guild tags), mapping (bad), chest runs (plusbad), and skill capping (doubleplusbad).

Wow.

Since my main characters have already finished the "normal" content on both continents, one way I enjoy the game is helping people through the more difficult missions. For free. And showing my "Protector" title is one way of saying "I've done this before, and know what I'm doing."

My neccomancer helps folk through Vizunah Square, for example, since she's a full-featured minion master. My Ranger helps with various Tyrian Missions. I'm not there to map, or chest run, or skill cap.

I'm there to help.

Thanks for the slap in the face to those of us who try to lend a helping hand.

Mourne · Oct 03, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Personally mine is the Gladiator title. Just for rank 6, not even max, you need 466 gladiator points. Rank 7, Subjugating Gladiator, is 755! That means 7,550 Games have to be won, ATLEAST. And who wins them all. Granted a good TA guild can do very well, and does, but dear lord, the time needed to get Subjugating is insane.
I have actually seen one or two Conquering (r6) gladiators around TA so I know its possible, just...

Kelsey Cain · Oct 03, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

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Originally Posted by lennymon

Im only impressed by the titles that *I earn*... nobody else should be impressed by my titles

Spot on!

I have 3 characters with lvl 1 survivor title playing through the missions and the games normally (2 tyrian/1 canthan) - pugs or henchies only - no runners - no mapping out or logging off if things get tricky. Those are the rules I set myself to make the titles a challenge.

Go for the titles because it makes the game more enjoyable for you, not because you want to impress others.

As a matter of interest - anyone been brave enough to play pvp (without their finger hovering over the log off button) whilst going for the survivior title?

Zakarr · Oct 03, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

In 95% of cases the players keep one of the titles visible to impress others. You can check the hero window if you are doing it only for yourself.

TOP 3 titles

1. Nothing
2. Tyrian Explorer 60.0%
3. Canthan Explorer 60.0%

Wabbajack · Oct 03, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Impressed with the Drunkard Title by the most , I don't see much of those around. Working on that title myself, I managed to get Survivor 1 on my Assassin.

Andisa Kalorn · Oct 03, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

"Advanced Skill Hunter" title, on the PvE side of things. I think this one requires the least amount of grind. It's actually kinda fun to go out and get this one, too - it doesn't feel like work. It is also one where leeching isn't an option, so no one can question how you got it.

It's still grind for some people. I have two accounts, and 10 characters, and between them I've unlocked every elite... twice. Yes, that means I've capped Feast of Corruption twice. Yet I have no titles, since I started my personal quest to cap all skills on each account before the titles came out. I could have easily done it all on one character; I have enough skillpoints and money. But I prefer to not just play one character at the time, and back then there was no title. So in order to get the title, I'd have to cap many elites a third time, and spend more money and time on getting skills I don't need.

Suffice it to say, skill hunter title doesn't impress me.

What does impress me a little is the wisdom title. 10,000 rares? I mean, you could have just sold all those for 1k each and made a fortune (considering that most golds seem to be just lame wands and foci). And that makes buying the top title an insane thing to do. So I guess it impresses me not so much in a "wow that's cool" sort of way as in a "that's insane" sort of way.

I feel that way about some of the other grind-intense or money-wasting titles. In comparison, protector titles, skill hunter titles... seem way more mundane, just an extension of what you do when normally playing the game, just clumped on one character.

martian tristar · Oct 03, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

I guess you're assuming that most people that strive for the Survivor (3) title either are primary monks or have a monk secondary to keep protective spirit up (which is a major generalization). Even protective spirit won't save you from enemies that can enchantment strip, which most of the missions/bonuses towards the end of both campaigns are full of.

By the way, it's not cowardice for people to find the safest way to achieve a title - it's a risk/reward proposition. I would surmise that most people that have already achieved 700K+ of experience towards a title aren't going to risk that progress fighting Glint or Kuunavang.

No, as he said experience comes from capping skills, so you switch around secondary all the time. So if you would do a mission such as the one with kuunavang you can call yourself "a not so bright survivor" when you dont switch to monk secondary and bring prot spirit for yourself. And as far as I know kuunvang doesnt do over 625 dmg in one blast and furthermore you dont need to finish that mission to get all elites possible in factions.

Im survivor (2) at this moment and at the arborstone mission. I pugged two missions, the rest I henched. Both missions I started up the group and we wend trough no problem what so ever. Its all about possitioning. Oh I didnt farm 1 xp with this char and nor do I plan on farming trolls with a elementalist and never even used xp scrolls. It just gives me pleasure playing trough the game, capping elites and going along slowly really experiencing the full content of this game. About 100 elite caps to go before Im survivor (3).

Phoenix Ex · Oct 03, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Titles that impress:

Ale-hound
Wisdom
Treasure Hunter
Lucky
Unlucky
Friends of Luxon/Kurzick

Titles that don't impress:

Protector titles
Hero/gladiator/champion
Exploration title
Skill title
Survivor